Complaint to the Integrity Commission Tasmania

Assistant Commissioner Richard Cowling made a misleading statement to the media on or about March 10, 2019.

 At a hearing in Hobart on Thursday, April 18, 2019, the prosecution told Deputy Chief Magistrate Daly that key murder witness in the Sue Neill-Fraser case, Meaghan Vass, had said ‘No comment’ to everything put to her by police when she was picked up for questioning on Thursday March 7. (Vass was in court facing 2 minor counts possession controlled plant/products charges.)

The prosecution summary of facts contradicts the earlier statement issued by police after the 60 Minutes interview in which Vass admitted to being on board Four Winds and witnessing the murder of Bob Chappell on Australia Day 2009. Sue Neill-Fraser had not been involved. I reported the police statement on my blog,, on March 12: Assistant Commissioner Richard Cowling said police re-interviewed Ms Vass last week when the program’s promotional material suggested a new version of events.

The version of events given by Ms Vass on 60 Minutes is contrary to her previous police interview, contrary to her sworn evidence in court and contrary to last week’s police interview,” Commander Cowling said. (emphasis added) But the prosecution summary of facts contradicts that: she had only said “No comment”.

There is a clear contradiction between the police statement to the media and the summary of facts presented in court about the same interview of Meaghan Vass.

I request a report on the matter from the Integrity Commission.

Andrew L. Urban
June 18, 2019

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30 Responses to Complaint to the Integrity Commission Tasmania

  1. LB says:

    Andrew and Keith,
    The question has to be asked “is there ANY integrity in Tasmania?”
    I think the SNF case affirms there is very little, if any, given the numerous opportunities for everyone, including the Tasmanian Premier, to act.
    Tasmania should wake up and realise it does not exist in a vacuum, although perhaps it should…..

    • Di Kemp says:

      I received no response from Tasmania Governor to my letter, a ‘cannot comment’ from the AG and nothing from the PM!!!! How much longer will justice be delayed and denied to Sue???
      I cannot believe this is occurring in Australia and not one of the ‘big wigs’ will do anything. Shame on the lot of them.

  2. Keith Kroger says:

    Stop Press: Faruk Orman has been released from gaol by the Victorian Attorney General following startling new evidence in his case invloving Lawyer X. This matter of an unsafe conviction due to compelling new evidence has been resolved within a few short months of it coming to the attention of the Government. The Tasmanian authorities are being made to look even more heartless in the SNF case citing what are now clearly spurious reasons for not releasing her immediately. It took Lindy Chamberlain 5 weeks. There are plenty of precedents – get on with it Tasmania.

  3. Keith Kroger says:

    All eyes on the Victorian Lawyer X case and the imminent appeal. Let’s see if it takes as long as SNF’s! I suspect not. Will the appellant be set free in the meantime?

    • John Spoth says:

      Would have to be as low as it could get, how can the system ever be seen as just ever again! The result could now be the release of many hardened crims in time! Well done Vic Police, but next time get NASA to work out your next bright idea! Or should we get VP to go to the moon, again? I wouldn’t!

  4. Anthony Smith says:

    I am happy to have my email address published I have found that the Integrityg Commission are useless in looking into Police Misconduct
    My friend Susie Alexander was assaulted and injured by the Tas Police at Midway Point in 2016 and nothing was done Doctor’s Reports and Physio Therapy treatment for the injuries were ignored by the Commission
    The Neil Fraser situation is a classic example of cover up and Robin Bowles in her book finally made the authorities do something
    I have been involved in getting Police dismissed or demoted and any subsequent support from the police up to Inspector Level is a waste of time on my behalf

  5. Garry Stannus says:

    Thank you Andrew. Thank you for bringing this matter to the ICT. It is surely worthy of attention. I wonder whether your ‘𝘖𝘱𝘦𝘯 𝘓𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳2 𝘵𝘰 𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘈𝘵𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘺-𝘎𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭’ [ ] has received a response?

    Let me – using the transcript that you’ve already posted on that thread – stress again what police prosecutor Goodwin told the court:

    𝘔𝘪𝘴𝘴 𝘎𝘰𝘰𝘥𝘸𝘪𝘯: 𝘖𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘧 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘺𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘭 𝘪𝘯 𝘊𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘰𝘣𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘵 𝘢 𝘣𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘱 𝘰𝘯 𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘳𝘰𝘢𝘥 𝘊𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘵. 𝘑𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘵 𝘏𝘰𝘵𝘦𝘭.

    𝘔𝘪𝘴𝘴 𝘎𝘰𝘰𝘥𝘸𝘪𝘯: 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘢𝘯 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘵. 𝘚𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥. 𝘚𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘏𝘰𝘣𝘢𝘳𝘵 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. 𝘈 𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘰𝘧 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘺 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘣𝘴𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘡𝘪𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘤 𝘣𝘢𝘨 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘮𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘱𝘶𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘶𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘣𝘭𝘶𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘣𝘢𝘨. 𝘚𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘴𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘴.
    𝘔𝘪𝘴𝘴 𝘎𝘰𝘰𝘥𝘸𝘪𝘯: 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘯𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘱𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘦𝘳. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘴𝘦𝘪𝘻𝘦𝘥.

    Police prosecutor Goodwin’s statement before Deputy Chief Magistrate Daly appears to be in contradiction to Assistant Police Commissioner Richard Cowley’s statement. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦’s original version:

    “𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘯 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸, 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘯 𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬’𝘴 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸,” 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥.
    “𝘞𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘨𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘚𝘶𝘦 𝘕𝘦𝘪𝘭𝘭-𝘍𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘢 𝘫𝘶𝘳𝘺.” 

    Earlier, Andrea Brown who is a friend/associate of Meaghan Vass, gave the following account [ ] of that so-called last interview:

    𝘈𝘯𝘥𝘺 𝘴𝘢𝘺𝘴:
    𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 13, 2019 𝘢𝘵 12:48 𝘢𝘮
    𝘚𝘰 𝘔𝘦𝘢𝘨𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘢𝘯 𝘶𝘯𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘤𝘢𝘳 𝘢𝘵 𝘢 𝘣𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘱… 𝘊𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘢 𝘞𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘳… 𝘈 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘶𝘱 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘯𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘯’𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵… 𝘚𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘴𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯’𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘨𝘰… 𝘚𝘰 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘢𝘨 𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘪𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘣𝘶𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘫𝘶𝘢𝘯𝘢 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘭𝘦𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘱𝘴 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘰𝘭 𝘋𝘢𝘮𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘎𝘦𝘰𝘳𝘨𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵…. 𝘚𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘯𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘯𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰 𝘥𝘰𝘶𝘣𝘵 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬𝘭𝘺?
    𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢 𝘭𝘰𝘢𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘵…. 𝘗𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘥𝘰 𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘣𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘵 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘣𝘶𝘥….
    𝘊𝘮𝘰𝘯 𝘛𝘈𝘚 𝘗𝘰𝘭 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦.

    As readers can see, Vass’s friend, Andrea Brown and Prosecutor Goodwin – both relying on different sources – present the same information: that Vass made no comment when questioned by Police Officer Damian George. Andrea Brown’s ‘Vass made no comment’ claim – later corroborated in court by Prosecutor Goodwin, contradicts Commander Cowling’s

    “𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘯 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 […] 𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬’𝘴 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸,” 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥.”

    In that statement, Commander Cowling appears to imply/claim that in that ‘last week’s police interview’ Meaghan Vass had told police that what she’d said to 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 was untrue. Yet to date I have seen no information to back up this claim. Furthermore, we should take into account the fact that Meaghan Vass also made a contemporaneous written statement which, when tendered to Justice Brett (the Appeal Application judge) was not challenged or opposed by the Prosecution. This was after Commander Cowling’s ‘Vass recantation’ claim.

    I believe that in another 𝘞𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 thread, Andrea Brown suggested that police may have got on the phone to a particular journalist, and may have given some ‘off-the-record’ disinformation. Consider for example Matt Denholm’s …

    – see ,
    – or google: 𝘺𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘵 𝘮𝘶𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯 – with a bit of luck, you should get a link to the article at the top of your results (without a subscription requirement) … click on the link and see!
    – and/or read about the article in 𝘞𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 /Andrew Urban: Sue Neill-Fraser case: key witness denies recanting to police at ]:

    𝘜𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘠𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘵 𝘮𝘶𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯, 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯‘𝘴 𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵, 𝘔𝘢𝘵𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘸 𝘋𝘦𝘯𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘮, 𝘸𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘴:
    𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘚𝘶𝘴𝘢𝘯 𝘕𝘦𝘪𝘭𝘭-𝘍𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘳’𝘴 𝘮𝘶𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺, 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘩𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘮𝘶𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘳’𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘰𝘮.
    𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘩𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘦 “𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺” 𝘴𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘺 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺. 𝘋𝘦𝘯𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘮’𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘨𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘯: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 — 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘥 — 𝘵𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘤𝘭𝘢𝘪𝘮𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘦.

    We are (to my knowledge) yet to see a retraction from Denholm. It does not seem unreasonable to suggest from all the secretive ‘𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯 understands…’ or ‘it is understood…’ material in Matthew Denholm’s article 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘶𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘴 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘶𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯 (15Apr2019) … that the police had fed Denholm with disinformation.

    Following that article’s publication, I wrote to Matthew Denholm, including reference to the claims by Andrea Brown. I did not receive a response.

    It seems possible that members of Tas Pol. have pressured Meaghan Vass and have engaged in a campaign of disinformation – by briefing a journalist with untrue information and by stating publicly that Vass had recanted. I recall that according to Andrea Brown, Vass’s arrest was not the result of police officers simply noticing her at a bus-stop and remembering that there was a warrant out for her for not having turned up for a court appearance. I don’t have the opportunity to document it all, I’m doing what I can. In any case Brown has advised in Wrongful Convictions that Vass was present at court on the date required in spite of being told that she did not have to be there, but that her name was not called. Brown has elsewhere also claimed that where the police were waiting for Vass was outside where she was staying: there must be a bus-stop closeby.

    I hope two things: that Sue Neill-Fraser’s 2nd Appeal will be successful and that we will have a Commission of Inquiry (Royal Commission) to establish – not just how Bob Chappell disappeared and/or died – but to establish in what ways members of the police, members of the public service, members of the Parliament, members of the legal profession … acted to gain – and even to maintain – an unsafe conviction against Neill-Fraser.

    I would hope that an Inquiry/Commission would discover how bits and pieces of information were thrown into the DPP’s cement mixer, how the ‘mud’ was brought to the court, how our CJ refused to allow Vass to be recalled, how the mortar set into a conviction. How for 10 years or so, the DPP and Tas Pol, the A-G/S-L, the Premier and so forth appear to have resisted efforts to uncover the truth.

    It’s as simple as that. We want to know the truth and it seems that they don’t. We are trying to smash that hardened concrete of conviction. We are coming at it from various directions. But still, Sue Neill-Fraser remains in prison. Still we wait and wait. So does she, I guess. And so does her family.

    We all want answers, we don’t have them yet.
    𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘥𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢 “𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴”.
    “𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘧𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘨𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘶𝘣𝘴𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘨𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘦𝘢𝘮𝘴.” 𝘈𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘙𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘊𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵.

    Notice how 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦’s June 2019 account of Cowling’s statement 𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐕𝐚𝐬𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐚 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰, at the time of the 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 program being screened.

    Remember [from the first 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦 version shown in the second quote from the beginning of my comment]…

    “𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘨𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘯 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 […] 𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬’𝘴 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸,” 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥.”

    This part of 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦’s article is now missing from the version that I’ve sourced today [22Jun2019].

    Has 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦 reworked its original account? It seems to have done so. 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯 does not seem to have done so. Neither can I find on the Tasmania Police (Media Release) website any statement correcting the record. What about the Mercury (which on-published 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯’s account)?

    Where I use the expression ‘on-published’, I really mean that Loretta Lohberger (Mercury: 16Apr2019) appears to have condensed Matthew Denholm’s article from the day before. She, in my view, has condensed it substantially, without offering any new information. Her article finishes with the following (in my view) debased retweaking of Denholm’s article. This is how a ‘discreet, ‘off-the-record’ phone conversation between TasPol and Matt Denholm, and on-written by Lohberger, ends up:

    𝘈𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘛𝘢𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘗𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘈𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘙𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘊𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴’ 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘰𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘯𝘦𝘸 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘶𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘨𝘰 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘗𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴.
    𝙄𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙈𝙨 𝙑𝙖𝙨𝙨 𝙩𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙝 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙝𝙖𝙙 𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙏𝙑 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙬. 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰 𝘴𝘶𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘥𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘺 60 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴, 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘔𝘴 𝘝𝘢𝘴𝘴. 𝘕𝘦𝘪𝘭𝘭-𝘍𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘳’𝘴 𝘭𝘢𝘸𝘺𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘺𝘦𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘰𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘭.

    I close with the following observations:
    1 Loretta Lohberger’s husband Ben Lohberger and Wrongful Convictions publisher Andrew Urban were (24Aug2014) jointly featured in Tasmanian Times’ “Two Views of Her Guilt”
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    2 The Mercury’s ‘𝙄𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙈𝙨 𝙑𝙖𝙨𝙨 𝙩𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙥𝙤𝙡𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙝 𝙨𝙝𝙚 𝙝𝙖𝙙 𝙡𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙏𝙑 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙬’ still stands, yet along with 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘶𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯’s ‘parent’ account, seems to have been left out on a limb … police saying nothing more and 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦 ‘revising its original post. Those newspaper accounts were contradicted by a friend/associate of Vass’s and also in court by Tasmanian Police Prosecutor, Miss Goodwin.

    3 More importantly, according to all accounts that I’ve sourced, the prosecution chose not to object to, and did not challenge the ’11th hour submission’ of Meaghan Vass’s ‘I was on the yacht’ statement to Justice Brett’s court. No one, not Daryl Coates nor any of his prosecution team rose to challenge Vass’s statement. Following that, Justice Brett without delay granted Sue Neill-Fraser leave to make a second appeal.

    I support Andrew Urban’s complaint to the Tasmanian Integrity Commission.

    • andrew says:

      As I wrote to Matthew Denholm at the time “I hope you haven’t been used”. And yes, the AG responded that she can’t respond. ‘The matter is before the court.’ We wish it was indeed before the court…

      • Di Kemp says:

        Andrew your response is the same one I received re cannot comment as it is before the court.
        How long does Sue have to wait for a date to be set???? I notice that in Victoria a questionable conviction is to be reviewed as a priority – where is the priority for Sue???
        Cover up and cop out but we are not going away!!!!!

        • andrew says:

          History (and public opinion) will not be kind to ‘them’ … all those who could but won’t act with humanity – but it’s a shame it is Sue and her family that suffer now.

    • Geraldine Allan says:

      Ditto to Garry’s, “I support Andrew Urban’s complaint to the Tasmanian Integrity Commission.”

      Yesterday, I posted the following comment on Justice System Reform f/b page

      “I agree — an inquiry is necessary. Royal Commission, Commission of Inquiry, whatever.

      My fear/hesitation with any complaint to Tasmanian Integrity Commission (TIC) related to SN-F matters is — specific allegations of wrongdoing activities/matters/complaints broadly come under the header of Justice Department agencies/personnel.

      My concern is prompted because current CEO [TIC] Mr Richard Bingham (RB) was for 10 years, Secretary of the Tasmanian Department of Justice (DoJ) 1994-2004.

      I accept:
      (i) This specific time of RB employment precedes the SN-F matters;
      (ii) DoJ is meant to act separately from Tasmania Police (TP). Numerous observers know that doesn’t happen and, that Tas Pol & ODPP (DoJ) work closely together … at times too closely.

      Several of the alleged most serious wrongdoing as related to SN-F matters are closely aligned to current and former, Crown Law officers — DoJ employees.

      Clearly there exists a real (or even perceived) conflict of interest, from my viewpoint, such that in my view Mr Bingham ought properly to excuse himself from oversighting any TIC complaint that has connections with DoJ matters. Suffice to record here — the connections are all too close for my comfort as it relates to Andrew Urban’s TIC complaint, re DoJ matters. Enough said”.

    • andrea says:

      hi sorry i haven’t posted for a while, things have been tricky with miss vass and all this carry on. Houses in west hobart and north hobart were raided early morning looking for meaghan around a month to six weeks ago. Thnk goodness she wasn’t there is all i can say. She has been in no trouble and all her court is dealt with so i love to know what they wanted her for.
      Also why not knock on my door if they are looking so bad, obviously they’d know of me telling it how it is on here and other places so wouldn’t it make sense to come see me? only if they thought they had a chance of rattling her and scaring her which i would never allow to happen in a million years.

  6. Sandra Duncan says:

    There are too many people who are well paid leading figures in the Tasmanian justice system including Blow and Powell whose competency to hold their present high ranking positions will be publicly questioned?? Too many nepotistic snouts in the trough!! Poor poor Sue !!

    • sandra Crack says:

      Thank you. I am a fist hand witness to the corruption of (EDITED FOR LEGAL REASONS), and the lengths he will go to to cover up for his cronies.
      He is an absolute Criminal, and I’m prepared to testify to a royal commission or such body, that starts to care about exposing his jolly corruption.

      My son is innocent, as is susan.

      Its been near 7 years of fighting to bring those corrupt officials to task.

      A paramedic has been protected, and a murderer is still on your streets, this proven by DNA.

      The police tactics to protect their own, to the degree of getting a pathologist to cover up facts, is unacceptable in todays scientific world.

      I’m happy to release my email publicly and am available, to prove, the exact criminal extent, the incestuous judicial relationships, and criminal intent of the so called, law holders of Tasmania.

      Its a sham, shame, worse, william hodgemans passing of laws eratically to support these silk suit and wig criminals.

  7. Helen Adkins says:

    It has been a set up right from the start. Is there police involved in the murder????? There was contamination right from the start no cordoning off the crime scene!!! We have seen time and time again the corruption with uniformed police in all States. Do Tasmanians have short term memory of one Justice Blow who several years ago let an 18 year old off for killing a school girl of 13 who did run behind the bus but the youth was well and truly over the 40 km/hr zone at 80 km/hr. No wonder mainlanders are thinking of going back to their home state.

    • andrea says:

      I think its more about ego tripping and not being able to say they made a mistake, if this goes away and sue stays in prison we may as well all give up on society as we have asked for numerous answers to questions that made no sense ….missing evidence, meaghan vass,Damien George and Robyn Heinz….. But the answers are never given and the question completely ignored. From Taspol to the judges to the shonky forensic officers , they all need to be weeded out with fresh and HONEST people .

  8. Rodger Warren says:

    Hi Chris
    There are still people who believe Lindy Chamberlain is guilty.
    Its impossible to convince some people.
    I firmly believe Susan Neill-Fraser is innocent and will eventually be found innocent.
    I applaud Andrew and all the other people have fought valiantly for her release.
    I just hope Sue is still alive to see her sentence quashed.

    • andrew says:

      And of course it is important to underline your comment that your belief in Sue Neill-Fraser’s innocence is based on evidence lacking against her – and supporting a case against others.

  9. Kas says:

    Thanks for keeping on the case. What really worries people who’ve been following it is:
    1. How is Meaghan faring now – especially with her homelessness and vulnerability to be picked up by police for minor charges (as you’ve reported above) and to intimidation by the men she’s implicated in Bob Chappell’s murder?

    2. What attempts, if any, have been made to apprehend and/or interrogate those two men and their associates? Surely their being at large is a safety issue for Meaghan and the community more generally, and presumably they could even be hiding interstate or overseas.

    • andrea says:

      Meaghan is doing ok thanks to the half a dozen or so people who will stick by her through life and as far as any movement re other two suspects… Not a thing as if taspol did make a move to interview them then they are as good as admitting they right royally messed this up. Even now why has meagan never been charged with perverting justice when others were and for minor things or in jeff thompsons case, doing absolutely nothing at all. Meaghan is the thorn in their side , the pain in the arse that won’t go away. If they charged her , well she would cut sick and spill her guts about every wrong thing they’ve done and that isn’t a can of worms id be wanting cracked open

      • Geraldine Allan says:

        Andrea I’m curious as are others — do you believe or know if —Sam Devine has anything in his ‘box of secrets’ to hold over Tas Pol or DPP?

        Rumour has it that there are spurious reasons as to why these parties are steering clear of the Devine family. Maybe gossip dressed up as evidence, maybe not?

        • Andrea says:

          everybody knows that they are a huge family who stick together, i dont think that meaghan has to worry about them until such a time that tas pol if ever decide to pursue him, as if he did anything now well hed look guilty.
          i dont think they have any hard evidence to back the claim though it didnt stop them last time did it?

  10. Williambtm says:

    Anything to do with Tasmania’s Supreme requires a critical examination of case transcripts, of course, that can only be if they are made available through the archive sites.
    I have noted cases being withdrawn as well as the odd case not submitted at all.

  11. Chris says:

    Vass recanted, Andrew, but you can’t accept it. Instead of complaining why don’t you revise your understanding and interpration of the trial evidence. May I suggest that you consider the crime scene photograph 7?

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