Andrew L. Urban.
Tasmania’s legal establishment wants to shut it down but the continuing uproar of dissent over the demonstrable wrongful conviction of Sue Neill-Fraser will not be silenced. As we show here, there is a great deal to uproar about.
Tasmania’s highest courts have considered the case in great detail, claimed Elise Archer, Tasmania’s Attorney-General in early November 2022, in the wake of the High Court’s refusal to grant leave for Sue Neill-Fraser to appeal her conviction; she claimed this was a reason not to establish an independent review into the case. As we shall show, that claim is unprincipled, misleading and ignores a great deal that is yet to be considered.
So many judges had been involved in the case, wrote Tasmanian Law Society President Simon Gates in the Mercury (August 23, 2022), as part of his argument to stop supporters making continued criticism of the way the case has been handled. They risked undermining public confidence in the legal system, he said. As we shall show, there is much that justifiably undermines public confidence in the legal system, notably certain participants in it.
The Mercury’s Cameron Whitely reported on September 3, 2021, that Tasmanian Police Commissioner Darren Hine “weighed in to the ongoing debate about Sue Neill-Fraser’s murder conviction saying supporters of the convicted killer were making ‘selective arguments’ and that he had confidence in the investigation and legal process. “I would like to make it very clear that I fully support the legal process and remain absolutely confident in the integrity, thoroughness and professionalism of the original and subsequent Tasmania Police investigation teams, including the forensics experts, and the prosecution case by the office of the [Director of Public Prosecutions].” As we shall show, the Commissioner’s confidence is sadly misplaced.
So clearly, Tasmania’s political leadership, its lawyers and its police all have full confidence in the legal system and are in agreement that there is nothing more to examine in the case of Sue Neill-Fraser’s 2010 murder conviction. That’s funny, as Isaac Asimov might say, because there are in fact many issues that cast serious doubt on the validity of the conviction which have not been considered by the courts. None have been considered by the High Court (leave to appeal was twice refused), for example, and the Tasmanian Court of Criminal Appeal decided 2:1 to dismiss the appeal. The dissenting judge would uphold the appeal.
Issues that remain appealable were identified by Tony Jacobs, a respected former Hobart prosecutor, others by Flinders University legal academic Dr Bob Moles, and yet others by lawyer Barbara Etter APM & barrister Hugh Selby – not to mention various lawyers & barristers working on Neill-Fraser’s case, and reported on film, TV, podcasts, blogs and in print media.
Some of those issues that remain disputing the conviction:
Tony Jacobs, former Tasmanian prosecutor:
# flagrant incompetence by defence counsel, the late David Gunson,
# the failure of the solicitors lodging her 2011 appeal to raise these issues,
# the failure of the solicitor lodging her 2012 High Court appeal
# the failure of the Tasmanian Appeal Court in 2012 to, of its own motion, raise these issues.
Other issues raised by Jacobs:
# Evidence not disclosed re electropherogram of Vass DNA), destroying prosecutor’s claim of transferred deposit;
# Evidence not disclosed about the false Mt Nelson address (given by Vass);
# Failure to object to inadmissible hearsay evidence from Detective Sinnitt re Vass possibly hanging around Goodwood;
# Evidence not disclosed that Mr Gosser in conversation with Detective Sinnitt re DNA unlikely to have been walked on;
Six steps to the wrongful conviction of Sue Neill-Fraser, by Dr Bob Moles, legal academic:
Step 01 – Luminol test results are not admissible
Step 02 – Luminol test results are seriously prejudicial
Photograph of ‘Luminol’ in the dinghy
Step 03 – Inadmissible pathology evidence
Step 04 – Inadmissible submissions by prosecutor and judge
Step 05 – Jury misinformed concerning drug-smuggling operations
Step 06 – The Judge – circumstantial case wrongful summing up to jury
The Etter Selby papers & the police investigation
In August 2021 the findings of a review of the police investigation by former Sue Neill-Fraser lawyer Barbara Etter APM and barrister Hugh Selby was delivered to the Attorney-General. It was later tabled in the Legislative Council by Independent member Michael Gaffney, who also tabled the Tony Jacobs papers.
The Etter Selby investigation report states that: “This paper explores significant police shortcomings in the investigation, along with their failure to disclose key evidence to the Crown in the Sue Neill-Fraser case. It brings to light information that has not been presented to the court at any stage of the initial trial, subsequent appeals nor the latest appeal [then] before the Supreme Court of Tasmania.
“TASPOL investigators in Operation Ransack (the operational name for the Sue Neill- Fraser murder investigation) failed to follow up basic and obvious lines of inquiry about Meaghan Vass [MV] and her known associate Sam Devine [SD] both prior to the Sue Neill- Fraser trial in 2010 and thereafter.”
For example, “important emails from the Manager of Mara House and emails from Grosser at FSST, were not provided to the ODPP for disclosure to the defence as outlined in Sinnitt’s 2019 affidavit.”
Tasmania’s political leadership, its lawyers and its senior police might like to reflect on all these findings outlined above and ask themselves whether the failure to review this case undermines public confidence in the legal system – of which they are part.
You make interesting comments.
Do you know more?
Do you know how Bob’s body was disposed of?
Can Tony Jacobs assist Sue?
And all the while, one of the principal architects of this total abandonment of the principles of criminal law jury trial, sits blythley on as to the Chief Justice of Tasmania, into an extended period of power. Unanswerable to the law or the innocent woman whose life he helped to destroy.
When Police resort to taping lawyer’s – client privilege conversations after a conviction there is a major problem with their case in the beginning.
I expected more from Sue’s lawyers during the trial. Pointing to the door of the court room and say ‘Here comes Bob” and if they didn’t do or were instructed not to do it was wrong. That was reasonable doubt. Not Guilty. It didnt happen so it was Guilty.
The miscarriages of justice towards female murder victims is huge in Tasmania that should of been the sign for all trials of women going before the courts in Tasmania. People ignore it thinking who cares.
Cause it all corrupt the police are the drug importers the 2men were hired help high level drug importation racket run through the government with deadly consquencses and wrongfully imprisonment of sue and poor leanne victim from the beginning and learnt the hard way the hands of a Pedofile destroyed her child hood and they still victimise her scared stole her life like so many goverment officials that discredit her to make her unreliable witness In that court room she a person that knows to much that has to be intimidated Not to talk So the police can continue in coruppt inviorment the live in Business as usual sue in jail so Leanne do you think they will ever get out alive
Now poor sue lost her hubby got fucking railroaded by soft cock males that bullshit the way through the whole case false accusations all round why to cover up the corrupt police force that shipped drugs down from Scarborough on a yacht that bob bought unknowingly or not when all went wrong murder ? Was there answer panick unorganised kiosk and a amature cover up that has holes everywhere And left for the court room cover up hide and intimadate who thy have to so they can go on and live there lavish live of greed oringinized crime in government that make us all say enough is enough fuck that bullshit society Jail for all of them and free sue and save Leanne as I’m sure she is fully a where of the g life she lived in and what happens in the real world
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If I wrote in english,( can I use the word English ) or should I say understandable vocabulary; whatever; Andrew would not publish my words. Please use your imagination; I am at wits end, living amongst heathens who declare themselves a democracy; such a hypocracy and living life a lie, one after the other. GOD SAVE THE KING. OWEN.
Thankyou for the report . I hope sue is well and god bless her . I pray that true justice will prevail.
In my opinion, and from bitter experience which denied my deceased ex-Serviceman husband , Ronald Ian McLellan, and I justice ( we were ex-South Australians who had no criminal records ) , there should be a Federal Royal Commission of Enquiry not just into the miscarriage of justice in the Susan Neill-Fraser Case , but, into the corruption of the Tasmanian Legal Establishment, its courts, into the actions of ex- Police Commissioner Hine and Attorney-General Elise Archer , and The Integrity Commission of Tasmania which declines to investigate breaches against the police and others . If it refuses to do its job, then , it should be disbanded and all its members sacked asap !
My knowledge & experiences prompt me to suggest any proper independent inquiry must be retrospective over several decades. That would include numerous police commissioners before now retired Hine.
Indeed, you guys are on the ball. It goes back as far as the Carter Royal Commission, corruption exposed, and I had just arrived in Tasmania. We all must admit, corruption is everywhere, all the time; thats ‘human nature’; but because we all recognise that fact, it is more importantant to stay on top of it, and in some states they try. Owen.
As shonky as what this case is it is still possible that many in the system believe in Sue’s guilt and if so would not support opening the case.
We do not know how many in the system have arrived at the belief of Sue’s innocence and may be involved in a cover up.
In so many cases the police arrive at guilt before all the evidence is in and then milk circumstantial evidence all the way to guilty.
Once a person accepts that a person is guilty then circumstantial evidence becomes good enough.
What is obvious to us may not be obvious to them.
Sue was not found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt – that is for sure.
Are we expected to believe that the police and the system deliberately kept Sue in prison to save embarrassment or do they truly believe in guilt?
Elise Archer must surely have doubts. Has she received advice to convince her of Sue’s guilt.
The incredible part is that two males were on the boat with Vass and it is believed they killed Bob. The crazy part is where and how did they dispose of Bob.
This whole mess is beyond belief.
It is without doubt, that the two who Vas named got into a fight with Bob who fell fowl of their actions. So where is Bob? The answer to that is who did they call and who came in the dingy seen at 5pm tied go the side of the Four Winds! I believe that person is one of three who gave evidence against Sue at trial. The one that sticks in my 78 year Old craw is the guy who called Sue late at night with the story that the Four Winds was sinking! There are no fairies at the bottom of the garden so how did he know?
Stephen, the caller, (Richard King) to whom you refer knew because he said received a phone-call from Bob Chappell’s extremely distressed daughter Clare (or Claire), who was not called as a witness to the 2010 trial. Mr King claimed she told him she had a premonition of Bob being in danger?
Make of that as you will.
Someone knew something
Great work everybody. I wish I could be in Hobart, but probably better I didn’t anyway, but I sure will be in Hobart for the Inquiry. I have long service leave accrued so will hang on to it. Oh, by the way, a senior Tasmaniac Police Officer did stamp my file, not recommended for employment. Why would he do that? Forcing me to live like an Outlaw. Or was it because I had Federal Union Support years before against a Tasmanian Cronie Political Party Member.
On behalf of the Tasmania Police Victimised, Ostracised, Terrorised and Traumatised, we thank you organisers and participants of the MoJ Seminar and God Speed. Owen.
Tasmania’s Law Society has a new President., Amanda Thompson. Same surname as the Tasmania lawyer Geoff Thompson who was denigrated and falsely charged by Taspol and persecuted by the DPP . Now totally and utterly vindicated as innocent of alleged perversion of justice in the Sue Neill Fraser ” justice” disgrace.
Her predecessor, President Simon, weighed into publicly ” warning the public to be very careful in criticism of the justice, prosecution and police systems in Tasmania. He had a legal background in the office of Solicitor General, the office held by barrister O’Farrell, who ( having publicly supported Taspol in Sue’s matter) is in charge of the inquiry into Taspol’s illegal recording of Geoff Thompson
The new Law “Society”s president,Ms Thompson is, would you believe, in- house Counsel for the Tasmanian Police Association. Does the law club never end in Tasmania?
I sincerely hope that her predecessor, Simon Gates, doesn’t undertake any defended criminal cases.